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VT-Rainbow Disintegration Thread [Now the Marina Disintegration Thread]
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Would be nice if Proctor could try and get Lenox to tell her story to him but I don't think she's the kind of person that would speak out to the guy.
The problem here is that the people who get targeted by individuals like Marina are targeted specifically because they are actually traumatized and vulnerable. While it's a bit of an extreme comparison, sometimes asking them to recount in-depth and carefully archived information is like asking a rape victim to carefully diagram how many strokes it took their attacker to reach climax. The lack of evidence isn't necessarily a product of laziness on behalf of the victim; they were attacked precisely because it would be something they'd want to just forget as fast as possible, and potentially even aid in supressing evidence just so they didn't have to relive it again.
I'm sort of split between thinking it's probably a bit more to it than that or believing they're some dude on an internet power trip. He's such a big important badass man being mod or whatever for so many people and the attack dog thing. A true ally of the cause is better than some low level bigots or people who would rather stick up for themselves against a strong true'n real wahminz and such.
The big fella got to it before it while I was being a smart ass above, but yeah I was going to basically say something similar. It's easy for us to just pop up and say lay it on the table when we don't really have any risk involved. At worst we look like assholes from that one mean place who have all talk like big jerks. Most people here have a perspective based on a website that basically only had the rule of "Don't be an absolute retard."
It's unfortunate but it's also entirely possible some people won't want to come out because it would look bad on the overall "cause" than just one person. Regardless of whether I agree with that being a good reasoning, it's their choice to make.
As far as those being attacked we don't know exactly how bad it's been nor if/how worse it could be. Lenox to me seems like they want to be left alone of it all and mostly like they're getting cornered into what they've said so far. Honestly approaching them or pressuring them toward doing anything is arguably just harassment from another side of the issue.
Sadly these situations just suck over all and aren't easy to navigate for anybody.
Silvy probably wants to have a taste of that sweet, sweet Marina bussy.
I want you all to put yourselves in the shoes of those indie VTubers who see this type of news of Marina blatantly breaking ToS for clout, most likely causing minors/young teens to click on her stream which could potentially be their first exposure to pornography. This shit's gotta be one of the most embarassing things to be associated with as a hobby.
I don't participate in harassing Marina, I can't be arsed talking to a brick wall that looks like a brick wall. But every single thing that has happened and probably will happen is fucking justified. She's a fucking plague to the community and should just piss off. Every time I hear about her is either about pikamee getting harassed or her being a sex pest.
What a fucking legacy to her "brand". She will somehow fuck up in 2024 as well and I cannot wait for that shitshow to happen. I'll take a wild guess and say that she'll be outed as a groomer.
I don't participate in harassing Marina, I can't be arsed talking to a brick wall that looks like a brick wall. But every single thing that has happened and probably will happen is fucking justified. She's a fucking plague to the community and should just piss off. Every time I hear about her is either about pikamee getting harassed or her being a sex pest.
What a fucking legacy to her "brand". She will somehow fuck up in 2024 as well and I cannot wait for that shitshow to happen. I'll take a wild guess and say that she'll be outed as a groomer.
At this point in the process, the best advice to give to anyone not firmly in the Marina camp is to document everything. Every interaction with Silvy and other members of the Marina Defense Force. When you can provide proof (screenshots good, archives better) you eliminate all doubt and ambiguity; then it becomes an "your lying eyes" scenario.
Even the True and Honest believers will flee that sinking ship in true ratking fashion once Marina falls under public scrutiny. That in and of itself will only expedite the collapse.
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She showed off her degrading shit in public like some badge of honor, she fucked over tons of artists and potential new art-related streamers who would've most likely moved to twitch with the artistic nudity changes because they didn't have to worry of being banned for drawing someone in a swimsuit, she lost a good chunk of good associates/friends because they didn't want to be close with some sex pest and (because she is trans) has caused a resurgence of transphobia on twitter. Of course, there was some transphobia already on the platform but good lord the people homed in on her the second they saw that flag in her bio.
It's baffling how people are capable of defending that kind of behavior after she laughed at her moderators banning users warning her of breaking Twitch ToS. I think what infuriates me the most is the fact that she didn't apologize at first when she announced her ban on twitter. She seemed proud in that first post as if she was 100% in the right and people are knuckleheads for telling her otherwise. She had no care about how she affected THOUSANDS of people with the stunt she pulled off.
The thought of someone exposing young teens to this shit and only getting a slap on the wrist by Twitch is laughably bad to the point it isn't even funny anymore. People outside of VTubing will generalize that group as degenerates, porn addicts and possibly even groomers instead of autists because of this. How difficult is it to just sit down and read? Or just have some decency?
I'm getting a bit too personally invested into this due to a good handful of my friends being affected by the stunt she pulled and I just cannot take it kindly when minors are involved as well. Apologies for the outburst. Had to clear my mind. Anyways, fuck her, fuck her blowup doll live2d model and fuck the people defending her. Hope we can archive anything and all we can get our hands on and that every single one in her circle with a braincell decides to cut ties to her.
It's baffling how people are capable of defending that kind of behavior after she laughed at her moderators banning users warning her of breaking Twitch ToS. I think what infuriates me the most is the fact that she didn't apologize at first when she announced her ban on twitter. She seemed proud in that first post as if she was 100% in the right and people are knuckleheads for telling her otherwise. She had no care about how she affected THOUSANDS of people with the stunt she pulled off.
The thought of someone exposing young teens to this shit and only getting a slap on the wrist by Twitch is laughably bad to the point it isn't even funny anymore. People outside of VTubing will generalize that group as degenerates, porn addicts and possibly even groomers instead of autists because of this. How difficult is it to just sit down and read? Or just have some decency?
I'm getting a bit too personally invested into this due to a good handful of my friends being affected by the stunt she pulled and I just cannot take it kindly when minors are involved as well. Apologies for the outburst. Had to clear my mind. Anyways, fuck her, fuck her blowup doll live2d model and fuck the people defending her. Hope we can archive anything and all we can get our hands on and that every single one in her circle with a braincell decides to cut ties to her.
Sounds like you got some insider knowledge on this. Any receipts you’re willing to share? If you don’t want to be public about it dm the mods and they will insure your anonymity.
You sound a bit more invested than the average user on this. Go off queen. Tell us how you really feel.
I was in a VC with Sally (let's call her that for the sake of anonymity) and Sally is/was friends with Marina.You sound a bit more invested than the average user on this. Go off queen. Tell us how you really feel.
4 months after getting to know eachother, we got pretty close friends. We were playing games, shitposting, etc. The good shit. But then we started talking about VTubing, something we both were doing and she talked about how Marina approached her in DMs, complimented her model and was generally really nice to her. At first when the conversation started I genuinely thought Marina was a decent person. Theeen it happened.
Sally revealed that Marina approached her in a flirtatious manner, offering to collaborate with her or inviting her to VRChat meetups. She was really strange in DMs, talking about how "she found her model hot as fuck" and "how badly she wants to make out with her", etc. Really fucking weird shit. I connected the dots and figured it must be because of the model Sally had. Truth be told, Sally's model was extremely revealing with tits the size of watermelons. No wonder Marina was attracted to her lmfao
Sally was at least somewhat decent of a person and declined. Despite having a revealing model, she wasn't a hoe. She was genuinely freaked out by this and I could tell by her voice she was really uncomfortable speaking about this so we just skipped the conversation and while we were playing World of Warcraft, she elaborated a bit further by saying that after she declined the advances, Marina got really fucking upset at first and went quiet, not sending any messages to her.
Fast forward, Sally was streaming and she got raided by Marina. Bunch of degenerates began following her with Marina of course beginning to send messages in chat. After the stream was over, Sally texted me, saying that Marina began making these advances again despite being told no. We both laughed it off afterwards because it ain't the first time someone tried to hit on Sally like that but it was weird that someone with an audience this large to behave like that. This was the last time we talked about her and while I did bring up the recent stunt Marina pulled off to her DMs, she wished to not see it and move on.
I know it's not much, it's just my word as it all happened at first in the voicechat, my old discord got absolutely nuked by a bot (I never trust links from strangers again lmfao) and Sally wishes to not be brought into this but the people who say that she is a sex pest or that she tried to turn a VRChat meetup into an orgy, that shit is 100% believable. So yes, I am pretty invested when this whore tries to make these really creepy advances towards one of my closest friends despite being told to sod off.
I apologize for not providing a lot of information.
I made a similar argument on my stream on Friday. People who don't want to see nude art on Twitch are mad at Marina because she was the face of hentai appearing as "art" on Twitch, with screenshots of her stream showing up on Dexerto and right-wing politisperg feeds. People who do want to see nude art on Twitch are mad at Marina because she clearly abused the new policy for her own gain and likely played at least a small part in it getting reverted. We saw who I believe was the last person besides Marina to associate with VT-Rainbow drop her over her stunt, and her energy drink sponsor dropped her as well. And what did she get out of it? A few thousand new followers who followed her because of the tits but now will probably ignore her since she can't show her tits anymore, so they won't convert to subscribers and donors. Twenty-nine thousand followers and no friends.
Anyway, thanks for sharing your story. It's too bad that it's taking until now, when Marina has been made a punching bag of the whole fandom and it's relatively safe to speak out against her, for these stories to come out, but that's still better than them not coming out at all.
Krimbo has defended her on Twitter through pretty much all of her escapades. If you scroll through Taiga's account, he has some replies/tweets of screenshots of Krimbo whiteknighting. I'm out rn otherwise I'd post myself.
I recognize that name. He is/was a regular on Takahata's shows and I think may have had some loose association with Cimrai as well.
God i regret at some point being a fan of TFS when almost all of their alumni have fostered such an annoying fanbase before or after DBZA ended
It appears that yes, he technically did. As part of a
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